Let's restructure the clan

[fishki]

Just a note of clarification of all that is net speak. Newbie simply means you are new. Newb means the same thing. Noob is the insult. But yeah, I see no point in a board ranking system. Though I think that Vash guy would make a good global mod since he deletes spam.

yeah i know, but i think everyone understands, I dont post much on psu and i hated that title of Newbie, its fkn degrading.

yeah this place would be spam free if that vash guy was a global mod...hmmmmm wonder where he went

[cloud945076]

I want my exotic species rank...

good ideas DW.

[fishki]

I want my exotic species rank...

good ideas DW.

refresh your page and lok above your avatar, i did it like 30 minutes ago

[cloud945076]

YAY! sweet.

i feel special

[MichaelVash7886]

Just a note of clarification of all that is net speak. Newbie simply means you are new. Newb means the same thing. Noob is the insult. But yeah, I see no point in a board ranking system. Though I think that Vash guy would make a good global mod since he deletes spam.

yeah i know, but i think everyone understands, I dont post much on psu and i hated that title of Newbie, its fkn degrading.

yeah this place would be spam free if that vash guy was a global mod...hmmmmm wonder where he went

I think he's over here <<

Anyways, having a commander of the groups is a great idea, however, we still have the problem of consistency. We'd have to organize them in a 1st in command 2nd etc. Whoever was the top one that night would command that group, i.e. If 1st isn't there, 2nd is in command. The other thing is we have to figure out how to best assign these. A bad commander can make things worse than they are.

Another thing we have a problem with is people not being in with training. I mean I remember our last GB match we had someone jump in that had been in practices and what not and he kept taking the planes and it'd take me 5 minutes to find another one, or I'd die trying to fight all four or five of their pilots from the ground. And DW (or I when I found one first) would be stuck up there without any sort of help against four or five pilots. As I've said elsewhere people have to follow the strategy or else the person who's trying to can't in many cases. This is especially the case in a game as chaotic as Warhawk.

For example, say DW and I decide we aren't going to fly planes but rather go to try to grab the flag instead, the team would be a sitting duck if the other team gets in the air, if they are good at that anyways.

Something else we gotta keep in mind is that our overall strategy needs to be fluid. It may not be working some nights, so we may have to change it up as we did one round in our last match. Certain maps require a change. Zones in King of the Hill at Forgotten Capital, really doesn't need pilots, maybe one, simply because as long as you defend the center base well, and someone occasionally respawns at the home base to up it if it's pushed down from 3 or goes to the enemy base to knock it down, then you can win the match, and the match can change in a hurry. One night when I was playing with the PS3 GB on IGN my team was down and I convinced them to listen and we eventually took over the center. We kept our base up and theirs down and completely turned the match around.

If we can do the above stuff we should get better.

[beamblast]

kk, how are we gonna go about organizing it so we all have a plan memorized for every map?

[DWOMT]

Hey sorry if I sounded a bit snappy last night. I got sleepy and a bit grumpy. Fish I am not trying to change your forum. I was trying to focus on getting us organized for clan battles. Such as assigning command spots to battle grounds to divide up all the work. training, and recruiting new players. I want to lead our pilot squadron, and I know I'm gonna need help doing it. Here's the kind of structure I am looking to build:

RRB Pilot Squadron:

Commander-DWOMT
1st Lt-empty
2nd Lt-empty
then list of pilot members would follow. This group would be under my command and my 2 Lts. it's our job to train, organize, and recruit new pilots for the clan. Say for exampe we have a GB coming up and Kat's intelligence reports that the clan we're facing is filled with skilled pilots. It would be my job and my Lts jobs to organize the amount of pilots we need for the battle. We have to get their attention on the forum or track them down by email on the PS3 itself. This is not only more organized, but saves TB the mess of having to email 60+ people on his PS3 to join a GB. Plus me and my Lts could work strategies out with our pilots, and we'd also coordinate with the ground pounders for a battle.

Next step:

Ground Pounder Battalion:

Commander-empty
1st Lt-empty
2nd Lt-empty
then list of ground pounders would follow. Same guidelines apply. This group would be under the command of the ground pounder commander and his 2 Lts. it's their job to train, organize, and recruit new ground pounders for the clan. Same principle applies as above. They track down ground pounders for a needed battle through the forums or the PS3 itself. Saving TB trouble of once again having to track people down. The ground pounder commander and his Lts could work strategies out with their ground pounders, and they'd also coordinate with my pilot squadron for a battle.


Do you guys see where I am going with this? What do you think? And I agree with you Vash, people jumping into our battles and taking vehicles and messing up our strategies is hurting us. We need more focus, but still have fun playing the game while doing it.

[MichaelVash7886]

Well it wouldn't be hard. Basically, whoever wanted to join in on GB matches would have a try out of sorts, it'd basically be to see which group they should be in.

[RYANMILLER36]

Hey sorry if I sounded a bit snappy last night. I got sleepy and a bit grumpy. Fish I am not trying to change your forum. I was trying to focus on getting us organized for clan battles. Such as assigning command spots to battle grounds to divide up all the work. training, and recruiting new players. I want to lead our pilot squadron, and I know I'm gonna need help doing it. Here's the kind of structure I am looking to build:

RRB Pilot Squadron:

Commander-DWOMT
1st Lt-empty
2nd Lt-empty
then list of pilot members would follow. This group would be under my command and my 2 Lts. it's our job to train, organize, and recruit new pilots for the clan. Say for exampe we have a GB coming up and Kat's intelligence reports that the clan we're facing is filled with skilled pilots. It would be my job and my Lts jobs to organize the amount of pilots we need for the battle. We have to get their attention on the forum or track them down by email on the PS3 itself. This is not only more organized, but saves TB the mess of having to email 60+ people on his PS3 to join a GB. Plus me and my Lts could work strategies out with our pilots, and we'd also coordinate with the ground pounders for a battle.

Next step:

Ground Pounder Battalion:

Commander-empty
1st Lt-empty
2nd Lt-empty
then list of ground pounders would follow. Same guidelines apply. This group would be under the command of the ground pounder commander and his 2 Lts. it's their job to train, organize, and recruit new ground pounders for the clan. Same principle applies as above. They track down ground pounders for a needed battle through the forums or the PS3 itself. Saving TB trouble of once again having to track people down. The ground pounder commander and his Lts could work strategies out with their ground pounders, and they'd also coordinate with my pilot squadron for a battle.


Do you guys see where I am going with this? What do you think? And I agree with you Vash, people jumping into our battles and taking vehicles and messing up our strategies is hurting us. We need more focus, but still have fun playing the game while doing it.

I'm a ground pounder. Could I be 2nd LT or something, seeing how I......organize stuff....and stuff

[fishki]

Yeah i was more than abit tired and grumpy last nite also DW, so yeah, im better now and no hard feelings at all. YOUR ideas I liked, KATS ideas about ranking like AoD just threw me off my rocker, I could not imagine an entire board full of Admins and the havoc that could wreak.

So lets get back to strategies and organization

And just put me wherever you think im best suited

[twistedblister]

Sounds good...but it seems your focusing mostly on warhawk..then again that is the clan's main game

its DWOMT's post noodlez hes the warhawk practice person so thats kind of why if you want to copy anything that works for RFOM 2 you have my blessing.

[twistedblister]

[quote]="beamblast"]Hehe, nice ideas.
Cause it reminds me of my charter of rights. (Canada, bill of rights basically... idk if america has charters, I haven't learned American history.)
[quote/]

TS look out


oops and to be serious.

I still want this to be fun not an elitist jerk fest. so yeah the more senior active members should take charge but its still a game and a game that is not fun is work.

[twistedblister]

Fish you should highly consider this!

AoD uses this system and have a group of about 173 people scattered Across multiple games. They are highly successful and are a cool group. They have the following ranks

Trainee (pink)
Next-Gen (green)
Moderators (blue)
Clan Moderators (purple)
Senior Moderators (yellow)
Global Moderators (orange)
Administrators (red)

That is it highest from lowest you have to be a member for at least a month to be Next Gen

dude your a thread troll you creap and crwal and when some one talks to you you pop up. scary

[twistedblister]

@TB, I think its time to drop the proverbial hammer, either the 60 some odd members we have either get in here and get with the clan, or get out. Simple as that. Replace them with actives. Members that do not visit these forums have absolutly no idea what is going on with the clan. Weed the garden!!!!
about this.

yes and no

if they are taking up space and we have new and egaer members boot. there gone. i have culled the heard two weeks ago and will do agian when necesarry do not fear the reaper is here.

[twistedblister]

my thoughts as distracted and disjoined as they may be.

yes particapation in the board is not 100% necesarry but man we have this tool and if you just rely on me being online and jumping in our game when we have members signed up its not good.

so thread particapation is good but i would not boot you if you played every time we are in a match. but thats really not happening.

as we need space i am droping older mebers who dont post or who have not played.

i like having squad leaders it would cut down on my work load and again a serrious thanks to who and DW for all the help. warhawk rrb spud might have died with out your help. same to fish for the site this is so cool and he deservse a boat load of woots for it.

ok noodlz we shoud be involved in other games and can be. we just need leaders to cordinate and use the home page calendar so we dont double book games.

uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh i know i missed alot but i read quite a bit and have not touched my guitar for weeks. see ya Sat night if you play and if sprt300 accepts.

[DWOMT]

Yeah I think squad leaders will help you TB, plus it will help with the lack of forum participation. It will make it easier for commanders and their Lts to track down the needed players for a clan battle. Now as for deciding who the commanders and the Lts are, I think we as a clan need to get together and vote or recommend those people into those slots. That way it's fair and well deserved. I think that's our first step before we start to organize this thing.

[Noodlez]

i wish some1 else bsides me was this concerned with resistance....

[MichaelVash7886]

Noodlez, I'm sorry but this thread isn't the place for that. R2 isn't nearly as complex as Warhawk. There aren't nearly as many variables in R2 that require this kind of attention to detail. Basically in R2 you want a team that won't be demolished by the other team, and as long as people choose classes right and practice, they shouldn't. Warhawk on the other hand has ground vehicles that out rank soliders and planes that if used right are best overall and limited resources to boot. There's simply not as much strategy involved when it comes to particulars in R2 as there are in Warhawk. For example the whole non-pilots taking planes, I cannot think of a single thing like that in R2.

Now I'm not saying we run in blindly on R2, but there won't be as much need on organization. A good idea fro you is to find people who are good with a certain class and try to balance or unbalance your party in the way that best fits the map. Now if you want to try something like this make a thread in the R2 forum, don't keep bringing it up in a thread where we are trying to talk about Warhawk and reorganization system.

Like I say, not many of us have it, so why would we all be worried about it now? Personally I think in R2 this type of thing would be going a bit overboard. Last but not least, I feel that the skill level of the elite in Warhawk is much higher than the skill level of the elite in R2. Look at all the perfectly timed attacks we've seen, I don't think the timing could be nearly as perfect in R2 (or any FPS without planes). Also in R2 there are no Warhawks that can make or break a match. Once more of us have the game and get into it then we can work on who should be what class and all that, but how can we do it now when none of us have it?

[DWOMT]

i wish some1 else bsides me was this concerned with resistance....

don't worry man. When I get R2, I plan to jump into the online with you guys.

[Noodlez]

Noodlez, I'm sorry but this thread isn't the place for that. R2 isn't nearly as complex as Warhawk. There aren't nearly as many variables in R2 that require this kind of attention to detail. Basically in R2 you want a team that won't be demolished by the other team, and as long as people choose classes right and practice, they shouldn't. Warhawk on the other hand has ground vehicles that out rank soliders and planes that if used right are best overall and limited resources to boot. There's simply not as much strategy involved when it comes to particulars in R2 as there are in Warhawk. For example the whole non-pilots taking planes, I cannot think of a single thing like that in R2.

Now I'm not saying we run in blindly on R2, but there won't be as much need on organization. A good idea fro you is to find people who are good with a certain class and try to balance or unbalance your party in the way that best fits the map. Now if you want to try something like this make a thread in the R2 forum, don't keep bringing it up in a thread where we are trying to talk about Warhawk and reorganization system.

Like I say, not many of us have it, so why would we all be worried about it now? Personally I think in R2 this type of thing would be going a bit overboard. Last but not least, I feel that the skill level of the elite in Warhawk is much higher than the skill level of the elite in R2. Look at all the perfectly timed attacks we've seen, I don't think the timing could be nearly as perfect in R2 (or any FPS without planes). Also in R2 there are no Warhawks that can make or break a match. Once more of us have the game and get into it then we can work on who should be what class and all that, but how can we do it now when none of us have it?

dude...im not tryna force R2 onto any1...i just stated my appreciation for the passion for warhawk members of the clan are expressing and just saying i wish that our resistance owners would show some of that passion...when i asked fish and twist to make me mod of resistance it was because i was dead serious about leading a resistance team for spud...i want to put this clan on the map and i kno i could on resistance...i am that damn freaking good

also...i feel kinda insulted with your little resistance doesn't have as much strategy as warhawk crap....for every vehicle in warhawk or "perfectly timed attack" theres a team in resistance who have balanced out and strategically planned out whos gonna use which beserk and whoz gonna use what gun and how the team is gonna travel...also correct me if im wrong but warhawk doznt have a mission based mode where 60 people are seperated into 6 squads of 5 people which must complete missions together as a TEAM!!!!!! with STRATEGY!!!!!!!!!!!....i dont think it doz...but resistance does..and when 2 clans face off in that mode believe me...one hell of a strategy is definitely needed for that

also im not constantly bringin up my resistance plans into this warhawk thread if you look at the resistance board i have tons of posts stating my plans..and since they're on the resistance board i dont think they should b bothering you now should they??...when DW made this post i dont think he was talking only about warhawk if you notice he was talking about the clan in general and my comments have just been stating how i like his ideas and i shall be trying to implement my own versions of them into the resistance team, also if you noticed i did freaking acknowledge the fact that his focus on warhawk was because thats his main freaking game

so im sorry if my one or 2 posts bothered you vash...but please don't try to make me look like a douche again i do play both resistance and warhawk and ive participated in most gamebattles matches the team has had since i joined and i have been to mostly every practice...so what DW was saying does affect me as well since im an active warhawk player for this clan and I'd appreciate it if you dont insult resistance like that again...if you haven't played it...dont rant about it not having strategy...cuz im sure theres 1000s of players who have encountered me and are devising strategies on how to beat me...because...like i said before i am that damn freaking good and trust me...youll need the greatest strategy in the world to even land one shot on me...cause im sure 1 on 1 ill take you down in 5 minutes without ever reloading my bullseye

[fishki]

Ok somehow this thread turned into a big argument between some of us.

@ Noodlez, yeah I will be getting R2 and joining you guys and im sure there will be strategies involved, but right now I know nothing of the game other than what I have read in your R2 forum, so when i get it I will be a total n00b and at your mercy, so you will have to figure out some good strategies cause your gonna have me on your team.

[cloud945076]

uhhh...okay...wow....huh...yeahhh
DW has some great ideas up there. :]

[DWOMT]

Noodlez when the hell did I insult Resistance 2? I've done nothing but say good things about it. Dude calm down.

[Noodlez]

that wasnt directed at you dw...it was directed at vash lol..hence y i quoted him...and fish dont worry its not gonna go any further....im not big on forum arguments i just felt kinda insulted by vash's rant so i ranted right back...but thats it...its a done deal

[DWOMT]

I want to have your puppies Noodlez.